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<div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/30 Philip Earis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pje24@cantab.net" target="_blank">pje24@cantab.net</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Does nobody have the information below? I'm genuinely curious and<br>interested!<br><br><br><br>---<br>
On a slightly different point, I wonder if anybody could give<br>information about the two principles below? Both are mentioned in the<br>CC Principles book, but strangely (unlike all the other methods<br>included) no notation of further details for them is given. There's<br>
nothing in the online method collection either.<br><br><br><br>1) Maidstone Major - Joseph Tebbs came up with the first composition.<br>This was first pealed at St John's, Wakefield on 18 August 1809 in 3h32<br>by the St John's Youths, conducted by William Woodhead.<br>
<br>There should be more information at RW 1957, p596 (article by David<br>Cubitt), but I don't have access to this. A further peal was rung on<br>6/2/1814 at Borden, Kent, by the Borden Youths (possibly described in<br>
Morris's History and Art, page 139)<br><br></blockquote>
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<div>He just mentions: </div>
<div>"Union Youths of Borden, Kent."</div>
<div>and that a tablet records </div>
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<div>"April 5 - 1813 1 peal of 5,760 Maidstone Bob Major</div>
<div>Feb 6 - 1814 1 peal of 5,856 Maidstone Bob Major</div>
<div>with no indication of either method or comp.</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span></span><br><br>The Felstead archive (<a href="http://www.felstead.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.felstead.org.uk/</a>) says both the<br>
Wakefield and Borden peal were "Maidstone Bob Major". This method is<br>listed on the Methods Committee website as j &-18-16-58-78, first pealed<br>in 1947. If this was the method rung, why does it appear in the<br>
Principles book (and why does the website say it was first pealed over a<br>century later)?</blockquote>
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<div>Don't know</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span id=""></span><br><br>2) Bob Major Triples - A 5040 rung at St Martin's in the Fields,<br>Westminster on 20 May 1738, in 2hrs 55 min by the Union Scholars,<br>
conducted by John Denmead, "containing the Treble Leads and Bobs of ye<br>compleat peal of 40320 Bob Major, Eight In.". The CC booklet says "The<br>method is Original, with bobs made on the front (thirds instead of<br>
lead)", and points to Morris's History and Art, page 85. Is the<br>composition for this known? I'd be very interested to see it. Felstead<br>reports this peal as "Bob Major Trebles"<br><br></blockquote>
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<div>E Morris gives no details of the comp but does give a list of who rang what, under the heading:</div>
<div>"May the xx., MDCCXXXVIII</div>
<div>At S. Martin's-in-the-Fieldss</div>
<div>the first true and com[leat peal of</div>
<div>5040 BOB MAJOR TREBLES containing the </div>
<div>TREBLE LEADS and BOBS of ye compleat </div>
<div>peal of 40320 BOB MAJOR, EIGHT IN.</div>
<div>prickt and called by JN.denmed</div>
<div>Perform'd in 2 hours 55 mins.."</div>
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<div>What the CC booklet says cannot possibly be right "The method is Original, with bobs made on the front (thirds instead of<br>lead)", because there aren't enough changes.</div>
<div>5040 is one seventh of 40320 so, the treble would have to be always at lead!</div>
<div>What was probably rung is analgeous to a 5040 of Bob Triples with tenor covering, but in this the 5040 would be on the back bells with treble always leading!</div>
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<div>Eddie Martin</div></div><br></div>